Hi Grant,
The license point is an interesting one. Of course faculty always have control over the
license they adopt (e.g., they could go for all rights reserved if they published with
Pressbooks without being locked in + could then even choose to license that content to
TH). Of course, if it is a BCcampus project then it would be expected to carry CC-BY.
Also, I now generally suggest an SA clause instead of the NC clause because I think this
takes care of most of the reason why someone would want to add an NC clause (e.g., if
anyone revises your work they must publish under an identical license, which wouldn’t be
very attractive to the Pearsons of this world).
Cheers,
Rajiv
On 2018-01-11, 10:00 AM, "Grant Potter" <Grant.Potter(a)unbc.ca> wrote:
Thanks Rajiv - appreciate you insights and thoughts. This is the direction I gently
take my conversations with faculty when TH Marketplace comes up. I think the frequency of
TH being mentioned in my recent conversations may be a product of targeted marketing by TH
at my institution. I lay out the value-added
open.bccampus.ca<http://open.bccampus.ca> provides in terms of visibility,
promotion, and recognition. I think the only sticking point becomes the CC-BY license
requirement … which I personally think is the best option, but often breeds the, “so,
other people can re-package this resource I am building to make money?” hesitations. I
often encounter a willingness to openly share with attribution required, but significant
reluctance drop an NC clause.
Cheers ~ Grant
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Grant Potter
UNBC Centre for Teaching, Learning, and Technology
http://unbc.ca/ctlt
http://twitter.com/unbc_ctlt
On Jan 11, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Rajiv Jhangiani
<rajiv.jhangiani@kpu.ca<mailto:rajiv.jhangiani@kpu.ca>> wrote:
Hi Grant,
I haven’t heard from TH directly about this but have been following this development
(along with others, like OpenNow and Knewton). Lots of people seeking to engage in
#openwrapping wherein they add services/functions on top of OER. If you can’t beat ‘em,
co-opt ‘em, I guess.
I didn’t see anything in the TH publishing terms/agreement about open licensing—only
language about the worldwide rights of TH to any instructor-created content. So really
just a self-publishing platform, which I suppose one could use
Pressbooks.com<http://Pressbooks.com> for, even if you did not want to publish under
an open license. As Phil notes, TH Marketplace is also unknown and new and does not have
the reputation, visibility, and endorsement that, for example, the
open.bccampus.ca<http://open.bccampus.ca> repository does. Seems like a bit of a
scheme to encourage vanity publishing as a way of generating content for free for TH while
tying authoring faculty into their product ecosystem (or perhaps there is real value that
I am missing, beyond the functionality of their interface?).
Separately, it amuses me that this company markets itself with the tag line “Make
every lecture like a TED talk” (which to me reveals little understanding of pedagogy).
Cheers,
Rajiv
On 2018-01-09, 3:31 PM, "Bcoewg on behalf of Grant Potter"
<bcoewg-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:bcoewg-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca> on
behalf of Grant.Potter@unbc.ca<mailto:Grant.Potter@unbc.ca>> wrote:
During the last couple conversations with faculty regarding OER development TopHat
Marketplace has come up. They ask me to clarify the pros/cons of publishing at
https://opentextbc.ca/ versus
https://tophat.com/textbook/
This topic has come up recently on Feldstein’s blog
https://mfeldstein.com/top-hat-marketplace-care/
Looks like they are approaching their free opentextbook platform as a value-added
for their student-response system and realtime testing elements.
https://tophat.com/legal/publishing-contribution-agreement/
Wondering if anyone else has been experiencing this?
Cheers ~ Grant
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Grant Potter
UNBC Centre for Teaching, Learning, and Technology
http://unbc.ca/ctlt
http://twitter.com/unbc_ctlt
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